Golden Shower - m4m (Broadmeadows) 45yr
If you love to have your body massaged from head to toe and everything in between inch by inch softly and gently then finish it with a happy ending if requested using my hands, lips and tongue then get back to me. 45 olive skin with a moustache and [...]
gay bottom 23yr
I am a young curious slim bottom looking for someone to experiment with. I'm after a trustworthy guy to share this experience.
Top GILF's wanted. (Western Suburbs.) 23yr
Seeking GILF's. That's it, just GILF's. The older the better. I have always had a fantasy thing for much older gentlemen, and am keen to explore this. I prefer you to be a TOP. Completely. Doesn't have to be completely, but just know I won't be top [...]
Wrestling partner required for training (Melbourne VIC) 49yr
Looking for training buds to train with a couple of times a week in wrestling, if interested to find out more, check out my other add under community, then activities.
Tops needed to share a slim sub asn bottom - m4m (Melbourne) 25yr
Looking for more dominant tops to share a slim smooth submissive asn bottom. I'm keeping him collared, blindfolded, gimp masked, dog leashed and he will be lying ass up and head down ready to submit his tight smooth boyhole to hard cocks. Looking to [...]
Older Caucasian Seeks Younger Asian Friend (Close to Public Transport) 55yr
I'm a friendly, mature, professional, attached Caucasian guy. I'm looking to meet a younger passive Asian bottom guy. (Please be a non smoker who enjoys lots of kissing and cuddling.) I'm hoping to find something regular and build a friendship as w [...]
I love to dress up - t4t (geelong) 31yr
I love to dress up, skimpy clothes, g strings, stockings, bras etc.. play with dildoes and watch porn... with a throbbing hard cock, would love to wank you off and have you deep in my mouth and your cum all over me... and id love to cum all over you. [...]
Daddy cock (Doncaster east) 55yr
Horny daddy looking for young boy cock under 30.daddy loves rimming,sucking cock,kissing and watching hot porn and masturbating. Any young boys interested in catching up today at 2.30 for fun get back to me.only genuine boys and no rent boys.
Young chaser Looking for CUB/CHUB in melb SE (NOBLE PARK) 24yr
I'm 24 twink/average build (top/ver here) Asian open minded Looking for a nice white young cub/chub in melb south east area to play with 18-30 thanks into sucking cuddling kissing fucking and many more. Wanting a FUCK BUDDY or LTR =] Clean and sa [...]
VISITING AUS IN AUGUST (Japan) 24yr
I'm visiting Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane in August. Would like to make some friends who can show me around, or help me with transportation. Thanks! Hope to hear from you soon.
VISITING AUS IN AUGUST (Japan) 24yr
I'm visiting Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane in August. Would like to make some friends who can show me around, or help me with transportation. Thanks! Hope to hear from you soon.
Friendships/LTR (Melbourne) 31yr
Hello guys, I think giving this a try to see if it works. I am looking for guy(s) for friendships, mates and may be LTR if things develop that way. Not looking to hookups, one night stand thingy as it is very shallow and meaningless. I am kinda s [...]
couple seeking 3rd for wednesday (our place) 19yr
couple seeking some nice fun with a third this wednesday coming up we are willing to host at my bfs place close to the city you must be between 18-30yo caucasian, some asian, or some middlle eastern non-hairy and bottom masc or average body prefere [...]
older for younger (tulla) 25yr
seeking a younger guy 16-20 day time fun, i cannot host good for after school or early school leavers have car if necessary, but would like to avoid it if at all possible must live locally (ie don't contact me if you live in frankston, geelong, d [...]
Hung and young for reward - m4m (Melbourne CBD) 20yr
7 inches uncut. fit. straight acting, attractive looking to be rewarded by guys of any age. Email me.
Travelling Cocksucker - m4m (Frankston/Pakenham Lines) 55yr
If you live within 10 minutes walk of a railway station on the Frankston, Pakenham or Cranbourne lines and need your cock sucked during the day with no reciprocation please get in touch. Your cock & body pic will receive my face pic. I will swallow e [...]
VIRGIN! Do You Wanna Pop My Anal Cherry? - m4m (Swan Hill) 34yr
Looking For Someone To Pop My Anal Cherry With Some NSA Fun! If You Are Interested? Then Contact Me & We Will Go From There.
Daytime Sexy Adventures (Inner East) 57yr
I'm a friendly, mature, discreet, clean, safe, healthy, attached, semi-retired guy free to meet some work days between the hours of 10 am and 3 pm. I can travel on public transport, host sometimes, and we can meet outdoors or at other venues. I'm l [...]
Are you into feet? (Melbourne)
Are you into feet? Please note: I am not looking for sex or anything than simply attention for my feet - preferably a nice long foot massage. I really enjoy lying back and having my feet touched, washed, massaged, relexology etc. I like it so much [...]
The Elixir of Life - Sell Your Cum - m4m (Anywhere) 58yr
Whichever way you look at it cum is the elixir of life. I need to drink teen cum every day to stay young. If you are a teen or early 20's guy with discreet access to a freezer and big loads then I'm hoping you will wank into condoms and freeze them [...]
Young Guy Needs Help - m4m (Melbourne)
Young fit, tall, straight acting, attractive, white, genuine guy looking for men who can reward me.
genuine boy seeks genuine bf (west) 20yr
Lets make this fast and simple genuine guys only Im 20yo filo average body recently started toning at the gym Im 5ft8 79kg. Cute and bubbly personality U need to be 20-25 average or masc built fun person No nude images just plain pics needed best [...]
Looking for a claytons boyfriend (St Kilda) 33yr
Looking for someone genuine for ongoing fun...like a claytons boyfriend...Im relaxed easy going but would like someone special in my life...looking for more than an anonomous one night stand...would prefer an ongoing situation..am discrete and expect [...]
Looking for fuck buddy - m4m (Inner West) 24yr
Hey guys, I am looking for discrete regular catch ups with guy who share amazing sexual chemistry with me. I am 24, slim, 185cm, 75kg, with a nice uncut cock. Mostly bottom so seeking tops and those with hair is a bonus. Traddies, married, bi and [...]
Looking for Great Head - m4m (Deer Park ) 31yr
Stocky bloke looking for awesome head from masculine butch blokes. Happy to also give head to cut blokes. Always horny and discretion assured.
Cd pic swap and cam - m4t (peninsula) 24yr
Hi, looking for people who love to dress in partners or others lingerie and swap pictues and play on cam on Skype. love stockings, suspenders, boots ect but all sexy lingerie is good. just looking for fun for now, and possible meet up with the rig [...]
Blow me for reward - m4m (St Kilda) 37yr
Mid 30s guy seeking younger guy 18 - 25 to suck me for reward. Send pic and details.
Asian boy looking for LTR (CBD) 24yr
I am a 24 years old asian guy ( i think im bottom, i just found im a gay so i am inexperienced) prefer 24~35, white guys...not up for fun.prefer friends,dates and ltr.
21 BiGuy - Softcore fun- Can Host & Travel (West) 21yr
Me: 21 yo, bi, straight acting, asian-latino mix, groomed facial and pubic hair, 55 kgs, 5'10 tall, 5.5 inches long, 2.5 fingers wide, You: no older than 30 yo, no excessive body/face/pubes hair, slim and fit preferable, uncut cock would be a h [...]
Looking for Arab, Asian, Indian, Brazilian (Toorak) 40yr
I've done quite a bit of travelling over the years and have really enjoyed the experiences I've had with the men of different countries. I'm looking to have some more discreet adventures now that I'm in Australia. I shouldn't be posting on here as [...]
Looking for younger guy... (Inner SE) 42yr
Married guy, professional and in shape looking for inexperienced younger guy. I'm relaxed and down to earth and enjoy showing other guys the ropes and giving them new experiences. All discreet, down to earth and friendly. I can accommodate and of [...]
seeking younger guy 4 older (essendon) 24yr
Local only as in NW Suburbs of Melbourne If you aren't in ithis area then don't send me a message, no ifs, ands, or buts someone 16-19 (which is the legal age), for fun Im chubby and have facial hair, so if you're not into that, then best to not a [...]
35 YO Seeking Younger Toy Boy (Dandenong Area) 35yr
Hi there, Im a friendly 35yo gay guy from the South Eastern Suburbs, looking for an ongoing friendship or relationship with a younger guy. I dont know why, but Ive always been into twinks and similar, so if you fit this description, please feel free [...]
Nudists and Exhibitionists - m4m (Inner Melb) 48yr
Me: Am 5'10", 75 kg, medium build with brn hair and eyes. Am 48 but decent looking with nice cut 8" tool. Love to show and share with other dudes who enjoy doing same. ..Just love hangin naked and natural withmates. . Can even meet already naked. Cha [...]
st8 life but actually gay and looking to meet a guy the same - m4m (Melbourne) 47yr
if your a masculine guy (28- 40) living a regular st8 life but discreetly interested in other masculine guys and would like to meet someone that is a little older, wiser and experienced that will not be obvious to anyone for something more ongoing th [...]
***Anonymous BAREBACK*** Fuck my arse - m4m (Southbank) 32yr
Southbank tonight - fuck my arse - blow your load in me - lights out, face down, arse in the air, hole lubed - walk in and pump me full of cum. 6pm onwards. Anonymous blow an go! I can even be blindfolded if you want to be completely discrete. Only r [...]
Wanna suck/rim/get fucked (Braybrook) 42yr
Euro guy. 184cm, 90kgs, 7 uc, quite hairy, reddish blond hair, blue eyes, tight ass and hot mouth Wanna suck cock tonight, might rim your ass, and definitely need to get fucked! Into twinks/tradies/wogs but open to suggestion... Be my age or young [...]
Young chubby/fat (still) seeking kinky time (Around Melb) 22yr
Here I am again! If you're wondering why I bother posting so many times I've actually received heaps of emails, some horrible and others erotically amazing but I have not met anyone at all. Why? It's the combination of understanding what I'm after (s [...]
Visiting Australia in August 24yr
I'm visiting Australia from Tokyo in August, to be more precise, Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane. Would like to make some friends who can show me around, help me with transportation (optional). Hope to hear from you soon.
looking to loose me ass virginity - m4m (eastern suburbs) 19yr
im 19 and realy looking for someone to take my ass virginity im also looking to return favor and suck some cock 6" uncut clean shaven d&d free if intrested let me know pics may help even keen just for webcam action need host
looking for 60 + (melb) 33yr
hi any older guys want me to come around and keep you company have coffee or have a drink together while i slip into something sexy and sit next to you and....... im fairly easy to get along with friendly guy. tell me what u would prefer on your r [...]
Visiting Australia in August 24yr
I'm visiting Australia from Tokyo in August, to be more precise, Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane. Would like to make some friends who can show me around, help me with transportation (optional). Hope to hear from you soon.
Bubble butt looking - m4m (Melbourne ) 25yr
Hey guys, Looking to have some fun with someone who can sex me nicely. I'm not that fussed on experience and age, just that you are a top, or something of the like. I'm in my mid twenties, weigh around 100kg, am about 170cm tall with a 6" European [...]
asian looking for muscle to worship (inner SE) 30yr
gay asian male, 30 yo, 5'9, 66 kg, fit, mostly smooth, good hygiene, d & d free, neg. looking for muscly guy who like attention to their body and cock. like playing with nipples (not hardcore), arms, legs, and obviously a nice dick (love cut cock ; [...]
Looking for a Regular Friend with the Right Chemistry (Your Place) 58yr
Good sex is about chemistry - sometimes it's there, other times it's not, but we only know if we give it a go. I'm a mature friendly Caucasian guy. I'm very clean, healthy, safe and discreet. I'm in a relationship but looking for something more, mee [...]
Married and Need Rimming? (Inner East) 57yr
I'm looking for a married straight/bi guy under 40 who loves being rimmed but can't get it at home. Discreet day time meets with a friendly D&D free attached mature guy who loves eating a clean hole. Finish off with a suck or a wank and leave with [...]
MUSCLE BOY READY TO SUCK (CBD) 26yr
gym fit muscled boy ready to taste some cock this morning on your way to work or during the week on your lunch break. 5'9 70kgs 7uncut. cbd area. nipple play and amyl a +
Prof bear seeking to own worship protect (Ask) 36yr
Professional, a little chub, very hairy. Decent job, discreet, etc. Looking for someone up to my age to own, control, worship and protect. And use. Domestic servitude, sexual service... Preferably you'll be fit. Smooth is good but not essential. A lo [...]
looking for LTR (Melbourne) 25yr
After all these years travelling, Im tired. I met a lot of people, and found a lot of people r just into NSA, or ONS. Im tired of this. So Im looking for someone who is ready for a LTR. Im 25, Asian, 174 cm 70 kg. Prefer people who is a little bit [...]
straight and looking for mates - m4m (outer north) 26yr
Generally consider myself straight. Athletic, masc, caucasion 26yo m I have a gf, so if your not cool with that best not to get in touch. very interested in getting to know a gay or bi guy either my age or younger to hang with mates etc. Like to kee [...]
CUM LOVERS - m4m (MELBOURNE) 34yr
Cocksuckers who like cum, or to give cum I am interested in hearing from you title your post... cumlover...
your old jocks and socks (melbourne) 34yr
Crazy for your old worn jocks and socks. Clean out your drawers and get in contact. Let me know what you want me to do for them.... safe only fit for the bin = excellent Serious guys only please. TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT for your old socks and joc [...]
looking for a bf (Philippines) 22yr
a 22 year old guy from Philippines looking for a serious relationship. been in the site and been posting an ad in the Philippines but i don't find my luck there. so here i am trying to find the right guy for me. i do hope it will work..... need s [...]
Looking for slave (Melbourne CBD) 19yr
Looking for a horny slave that will take orders from me and to obey me A filthy obedient slave that will pay for my rent and take punishment if I am not satisfied
Dark servant/slave for young White Master (Mulgrave) 45yr
Fit, muscular dark Asian guy, 45yo and very submissive is looking for a young (18-25) White guy to serve as servant or slave, not necessarily sexually. Looking for someone who will enjoy having the advantage of a devoted servant to do his bidding, cl [...]
looking for younger brother/son (Mulgrave) 45yr
Sri Lankan guy, 45yo, fit muscular is looking for a younger (18-25yo) guy to treat as a younger brother/son. Looking for someone who likes to cuddle, kiss and enjoy being showered with affection, someone with whom I can catch a movie, go for a meal/c [...]
looking for younger for ongoing fun (Niddrie) 24yr
Looking for local fun with a younger guy Local as in North West suburbs Younger as in 16-19 (it's legal so no spamming about it not being legal) Im chubby and have facial hair, so if you're not into that, then best to not answer the ad up for any [...]
Older guy looking to suck cock (Glenroy) 55yr
Hi guys I'm an older guy wanting to suck cock in pascoe vale-Brunswick area. Anytime. I will wank and then suck u off. Like to meet guys on regular basis. Prefer age 25-65.
do u want a bj - m4m (pakenham)
Title says it all if u want a bj send a pic of ur cock and ur age. Im genuine and want a hot load now. First reply will get my mouth
bj now (pakenham)
Hi im an experienced guy looking to suck my first cock. Im mid 20s and strait just want to fill my urges on blowing a nice cock. Age race size i dont care. Prefferably uncut cock and just be genuine. Pics and stats for a message back i can meet you [...]
Hi looking for guy in northern sub (fawkner) 45yr
Hi looking for a guy around the northern sub who like's being sucked, i like to suck and like being sucked to so if you would like a bj call me !
2 guys looking for a 3some this week (melbourne) 20yr
Two guys here looking for someone to join us for a 3some. One of us is 20yo, Aussie Asian background. The other is 28yo Aussie. Want someone to join us for a good time over the next week. We are looking for someone in their 20s who is cool for a lo [...]
Top wanted- U host - m4m (Melbourne) 47yr
I'm bi 47 old guy. Like versatile role , bttm. Into hot Asian guys. You need to be able to host. Safe sex only.
Hosting at Rosebud on w/e - m4m (Rosebud) 47yr
Looking to meet up this Wed or Thurs at my place for hot sex session. Safe sex only. Top's apply , need to be swimmer or avg built >Not into bears or cubs. Asian guys preferred.
Top wanted- U host - m4m (Melbourne) 47yr
I'm bi 47 old guy. Like versatile role , bttm. Into hot Asian guys. You need to be able to host. Safe sex only.
Older guy looking to suck cock (Glenroy) 55yr
Hi guys I'm an older guy wanting to suck cock in pascoe vale-Brunswick area. Anytime. I will wank and then suck u off. Like to meet guys on regular basis. Prefer age 25-65.
Young guy wanted (Melbourne) 24yr
To hang out with / cuddle up to (that is if we click) ... and fool around with soon after. I attached body pics, I have other pics to show as well (face) If this sounds like something you'd be interested in, reply with stats and a pic if possible : [...]
love wanking and cum shots - m4m (melbourne) 45yr
Well presented straight acting not into gay scene and discrete I am into wanking and watching porn, no anal no kissing I am spotlessly clean , discrete and expect same I love stockings and panties and watching gang bang porn, bukake, cream pies, c [...]
Butch Daddy (Bi) looking 4 younger (Melbourne West) 45yr
I'm a large butch dominant Bi guy looking butch daddy in my 40's looking for younger guy to hang out enjoy good times fun and friendship and NSA. Like to spoil and reward the right petson if that's you then send me your stats and pref a pic, Happy to [...]
flagger's wanted for fun - m4m ((South East Suburbs) )
Hey Mr Flagger we want to fuck your hole with a wooden dildo , you know who you are and so do we all know who you are. Your arse hole will be so swollen after we finish with it. Have fun picking out all the splinters
young boy looking for 20-30 - m4m (south morang)
gettin a bit horny and need to relieve it anyway i know how and i will tell you how old i am when you message me so please help me ;) ;)
who wants to go (melbourne) 49yr
who would like to play and go see aerosmith tonight? i expect this will go fast,so you best hurry.
Yarraville. str8 guy. time to find place as a sub - m4m (western subs) 30yr
Ok so here goes. I'm married but need to try this For a long time I have been a sub for girls via cams and I thinking time to step outside of the comfort zone and try something new What im looking for is a guy about my age that's kind yet kinky and [...]
28 aussie guy needs a date tonight (CBD) 28yr
looking for a guy 24-33 who is drug and disease free that would like to come out with me to charltons tonight as I am meant to be on a double date with my best mate and his girlfriend (my cousin) had someone organised but they pulled out this morning [...]
After a mate maybe a date (Inner north ) 49yr
Masculine gay male wanting to meet another gay male for friendship or a relationship. I dont do the gay scene. I am not after sex, just friends or if we click a relationship After guys who look after themselves between the ages of 45 and 52 years ol [...]
Young guy looking for a mature man - m4m (SE) 23yr
I'm 23 slim a little hairy 180cm Indian Looking for a good time with an older guy Looking for a gentlemen but someone who knows what they're doing. Don't mind a bit of hair Love to kiss and cuddle D/D free of course. Let me know if your interes [...]
MUSCLE MOUTH FOR CUM - m4m (CBD) 26yr
muscled, 5'9, 70kg, inner city, can host. walk in, pull your cock out and let me suck you dry then leave. can host but have to be discreet. send cock size and location in first email.
blowjob lesson - m4m (Melbourne) 22yr
I need a guy to give me a blowjob lesson. I have never done it before and would really like to learn but am kinda nervous.
free shave (melbourne) 48yr
Happy to help guys 20 to 45 with shaving those hard to get at places I can visit u after work or some days as well
Free to give a bj (Northern subs) 50yr
Hi I'm free to give any guys a bj your place. Anything else you want just ask as I'm a tru bottom.
Older guy looking to suck cock (northern subs) 55yr
Hi guys I'm an older guy wanting to suck cock in pascoe vale-Brunswick area. Anytime. I will wank and then suck u off. Like to meet guys on regular basis. Prefer age 25-65.
Seeking Regular Buddy (Melbourne) 30yr
Recently single and new to the m2m thing. Basically after another masculine guy like myself who is simply after some no strings play, maybe someone who is married or bi and simply wants to get off with another bloke. I'm decent looking, well-endowed, [...]
Watermarc today. Greensborough - m4m (Greensborough) 35yr
Hi was wanting to head down to Watermarc pools today and wondered if you wanted to meet up at the pools, take a swim hang out etc See where it takes us I'm clean Aussie 6foot2 good looking clean cut, 95kgs, looking for same, sorry no Asians or indi [...]
In Melbourne on business? Do me in your hotel..... (Melbourne) 30yr
If you need to unwind after work look no further.I've always wanted to call to a guys hotel room so he can have his way with me.30 yr old bi curious guy here.I'm 170cm tall,72kgs, in pretty good shape, been told I'm cute, brown eyes,6.5 in cock.After [...]
Looking for exploration bud (CBD) 21yr
Young smooth uni guy looking for another guy to be able to have regular sessions with. I'm slightly experienced but would like to experiment more with the right guy, and try more anal. I'm mixed race, in shape, told I'm g'looking, DDF, easygoing, an [...]
Curious 1st timer mmm
Hi Guys as it says looking to explore mm 1st time. Have no experience with guys or a couple where the wife or gf would like to watch us. Im average looking bloke with a shaved 5-6 inch cut cock and balls. Am 38, shaved head about 115kg. Am lookin [...]
xdressers - m4m (daylesforde)
37 to guy smooth uncut cock clean discreet loikung4 guys that like to dress up.panties skirt for arvo fun shaved tools even better 4 nice play.in my area only outdoor fun or u host mag me with details or pix thanks
bj 4 u nsa - m4m (pakenham) 24yr
Looking to suck your cock now. 24 stocky build 5ft 10 guy here Be uncut over 35 and genuine Come to me we meet in ur car or a park? pull your cock out and ill suck it dry Preffer guys of stocky chubby build can be one off or a regular thing c how [...]
Chinese man seek a nice man (North Melbourne ) 30yr
A slim fit gay young mature Aussie Chinese seek A Nice Young Asian or white guy for friend and more .we can chat by email ,txt and Wei Xin .i am free day times work start 4pm to 10:30pm .monday ,Tuesday all day free .we can meet up coffee ,gym in cit [...]
Regular buddy (cbd) 26yr
i am looking for regular guy to explore gay sex. I have less experience. I prfer to bottom, but never tried. Latino guy here, living in CBD. I prefer young guys below 35, may be married or gay ... E mail ur picture i send mine. DON'T MESSAGE IF UR OV [...]
bi married guy (melbourne) 47yr
Looking for some fun tomorrow afternoon.Bi married fit 183 79 ks cannot host, can travel or a sauna
Dark suck and fuck (Brunswick) 25yr
I want to come over to a guys house tonight and find it totally dark and the front unlocked, undress down to a woman's gstring inside the door and lock it. Find my way through the dark to the bedroom and find him on the bed naked, suck him till he ge [...]
18 bicurious and looking for experimentation - m4m (Melbourne) 18yr
Hi im an 18 year old student Looking for and inexperienced Bisexual/gay but straight acting Guy who would be willing to meet Discretly and prepared for experimenting With me. Im a solid built 100kg 6'2 and slightly hairy. 6-7 inch cock. The m [...]
Asian btm looking caucasian top fb (SE) 35yr
177/70 str8 acting, smooth and discreet Asian btm looking Caucasian top/Dom. can host and safe only. Email your stats and we can go from there. Tradies or guys in uniform are very welcome... Hairy is plus... Ideally a regular fb
do you love having your ass licked out?? (CBD) 39yr
lean bi guy 39 yrs seeking a genuine lean guy under 30 that would love nothing more than to have ass tongued out nothing else expected just lie back open legs wide. whilst i sniff lick tongue your ass. please be genuine when replying. your pic gets [...]
Looking For The Ashton To My Demi (Dandenong) 35yr
Hi there, Im a friendly 35yo gay guy from the South Eastern Suburbs, looking for an ongoing friendship or relationship with a younger guy. I dont know why, but Ive always been into twinks and similar, so if you fit this description, please feel free [...]
wanting a hairy chest top - m4m (carrum downs) 35yr
wanting to meet up with a hairy chested top guy who would be up for some fun today / tonight into sucking and having face n throat fucked and getting my ass fucked all in all lets have some fun ;)
do u need your housework or gardening done - m4m (melb) 30yr
im offering to come and clean up your place free of charge to your desires make me wear as little as possible or nothing at all have a play while i work prefer w/ends or nights only if local im slim fit avg looking and very smooth guy
u in2 tight gear (melb ) 30yr
looking for a guy 18+ who has an interest in gym tights yoga pants jeans or anything else that is tight and revealing would like to hook up have some fun take some pics etc im slim 5'11, 8''. i will only give out pis if i feel your genuine
bi guy for sunday at wet on well (collingwood) 47yr
Looking for some fun Am off to Wet On wellington on Sunday afternoon Be great to arrange to meet another bi guy there for some fun
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